Meeting Transcript West Hills Neighborhood Council

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Meeting Transcript when Maggie tries to introduce map of childhood cancers

28:24

Maggie  speaks  and  introduces  herself  and  her  story.

29:45  [LESS  THAN  TWO  MINUTES  INTO  HER  DISCUSSION  WHERE  MANY  

MEMBERS  SPOKE  FOR  MUCH  LONGER]

Alec  interrupts  Maggie  to  tell  her  to  summarize  just  as  she’s  about  to  show  the  

map.

29:57

Alec  says,  “I  sat  through  your  speech  at  two  meetings.”  to  Maggie  who  was  not  at  

those  meetings.  She  is  a  different  one  of  the  parents  than  the  ones  who  spoke  at  

the  DOE  meetings.  

30:07

Maggie  calls  Alec  “very  rude,  sir”

30:57  

Steve  says  Maggie  is  not  a  part  of  this  committee,  but  a  guest

Maggie  responds  by  asking  if  they  are  dictators.

32:00

Charlene  says,  “well,

 we  don’t  drink  that  water”  about  the  chronic  violations  on  

groundwater  and  surface  water  runoff  which  reaches  the  baseball  fields  below,  

where  three  baseball  coaches  have  multiple  myeloma  including  Jon  Berg  who  is  

the  third.  One  of  his  friends  has  already  died.

36:30

Steve  Randall  threatens  me  in  front  of  the  room  after  I  whispered  “still  don’t”  

when  he  made  a  speech  about  how  he  used  to  not  know  anything.  He  had  

already  admitted  he  hadn’t  read  the  documents  we  were  voting  on.  That  was  my  

point.


39:00

Alec  is  asked  about  the  choices  and  who  made  them.  

44:00  

When  it’s  Maggie’s  turn  to  speak,  as  she  is  speaking,  Alec  and  Steve  continue  to  

side-bar  with  each  other  and  ignore  her  completely.

45:15

Alec  interrupts  her  and  says  that  he  has  letters  that  say  it’s  clean.

The  position  letter  discussed  was  not  shared  with  any  of  us,  There  weren’t  

enough  copies  for  us  to  even  see  the  letter.  it  was  completely  distorted  allowing  

only  facts  that  deny,  and  none  of  the  dissenting  minority  opinion  was  allowed  in  the  written  position.


May Meeting Transcript:

“Erin  Brockovich  is  a  stooge”  presentation  given  by  Alec  to  discredit  Erin  about  

her  claims  about  local  groundwater  which  is  used  to  blend  tap  water  in  Simi  

Valley.

00:00

Erin  Brockovich  is  a  stooge

15:00  

I  complained  about  the  tone  of  the  presentation  to  discredit.  His  response  was  

that  he  spent  time  on  it,  and  therefore  I  didn’t  have  a  right  to  criticize  the  

misinformation.

18:50  

In  my  complaint,  I  referenced  the  fact  that  Steve  Randall  said  he  was  going  to  

write  to  my  employer  to  say  what  kind  of  person  I  really  was  [I  was  fired  without  

explanation  the  following  month].  Perhaps  I  shouldn’t  have  brought  it  up,  but  he  

admitted  it.  While  claiming  he  doesn’t  know  where  I  live,  he’s  been  in  my  

driveway.  [VIDEO]

19:23

I  talk  about  Kinley  who  had  died  the  day  before.  [one  of  the  children  with  cancer]  

and  yes,  I  am  very  upset.

20:10

Alec  describes  Maggie  as  “breaking  into  the  meeting”  and  taking  over.

20:20

Steve  says,  “She  can’t  take  over  the  whole  meeting...”  referencing  Maggie.

21:00

Alec  claimed  that  he  tried  to  reach  out  to  the  moms,  when  in  fact  he  sent  Chris  

Rowe  to  investigate  and  undermine  them.  She  has  publicly  said  many  times  that  

they  are  “using  their  children”  to  get  money  from  Boeing.  [Chris  Rowe  is  

extremely  protective  of  Boeing  because  her  dad  worked  there  as  a  sub  

contractor].  She  is  also  the  former  chair  who  declared  me  invisible  as  part  of  

committee  proceedings.

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22:10

Charlene  talks  about  the  comments  she  wrote  to  the  DOE.  I  did  a  PRA  

requesting  their  comments  and  she  claimed  she  didn’t  make  any.

26:00

Alec  discusses  the  fact  that  he  has  requested  a  letter  stating  that  West  Hills  is  

not  affected  (while  not  allowing  anyone  to  hear  about  the  children  with  cancer)  

and  indicates  that  he  is  being  harmed  by  the  concern  for  cancer.

32:53

I  begin  reading  the  email  Steve  sent  to  me  asking  what  my  employer  would  think  

of  me  if  they  knew...  and  Steve  admits  sending  it  but  claims  he  doesn’t  know  

who  my  employer  is.

33:00  

Steve  says  he  did  write  it,  but  it  wasn’t  a  threat,  only  a  question  about  what  they  

would  think.

33:34

Steve  says  it’s  it  legitimate  question,  and  not  illegal.

at  7:00  Bonnie  complains  about  being  removed.  They  do  not  acknowledge.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/chc06n6oyx1aqra/Whnc%20Env52217.m4a?dl=0

49:15

Alec  announces  the  surprise  which  was  on  the  agenda  —  stated  that  the  same  

people  who  questioned  Dr.  Mack’s  credibility  HIRED  him.  This  was  false.  

“We  have  been  unable  to  find  evidence  of  local  childhood  cancer.”  is  what  Alec  

said,  while  having  refused  to  allow  the  parents  of  the  children  with  cancer  to  

speak  or  share  their  concerns  and  information.

50:44

He  moves  on  despite  there  being  speaker  cards  for  item  two.

103:50

Alec  makes  the  claim  that  the  parents  didn’t  publish  the  study  he  claimed  

happened  that  none  of  us  saw,  because  they  “didn’t  like  the  results”  insinuating  

that  they  were  not  credible.  

114:00

Alec  discredits  Bonnie’s  NIOSH  program  of  compensating  the  workers  claiming  

that  it  didn’t  prove  contamination.

1:18:20

Alec:  “Englander,  yes,  the  one  who  says  his  mother  died  of  cancer  caused  by  

SSFL.”

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Claiming  that  Mitch  Englander  is  somehow  unqualified  because  his  mother  died  

of  cancer?

0:00  on  LINK  below:

Example  of  Steve  disparaging  another  member  because  he  wants  to  be  on  the  

Car  Show  committee  because  he’s  a  car  dealer  (personal  interest)  [Bob  Brostoff  

is  the  target  in  this  case]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/chc06n6oyx1aqra/Whnc%20Env52217.m4a?dl=0

WRITTEN  EVIDENCE:

Written  response  from  Melissa  Bumstead:

Additional  cancer  cases  collected  from  

Kimi  Lewis  (started  with  a  group  of  100  

people  in  the  class  of  2000  at  

Chaminade  High  School  which  is  a  huge  

number  considering  how  small  the  

school  is,  and  how  young  they  all  are  for  

having  such  a  high  rate  of  cancer  and  

auto-immune  disease:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/

116142579059649/?

multi_permalinks=174474346559805&notif_id

=1528650136047648&notif_t=group_activity

Jon  Berg’s  Text  to  me:

.  

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Steve’s  response  to  me  when  I  asked  that  they  reinstate  Bonnie  to  the  committee:

https://

www.dropbox.com/s/270xnog1mcf8do3/Screenshot%202018-06-13%2014.16.03.png?

dl=0

Steve’s  

email  to  Bonnie:

 

WRITTEN  EVIDENCE:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6lt2u8sewzya32/


22:10

Charlene  talks  about  the  comments  she  wrote  to  the  DOE.  I  did  a  PRA  

requesting  their  comments  and  she  claimed  she  didn’t  make  any.

26:00

Alec  discusses  the  fact  that  he  has  requested  a  letter  stating  that  West  Hills  is  

not  affected  (while  not  allowing  anyone  to  hear  about  the  children  with  cancer)  

and  indicates  that  he  is  being  harmed  by  the  concern  for  cancer.

32:53

I  begin  reading  the  email  Steve  sent  to  me  asking  what  my  employer  would  think  

of  me  if  they  knew...  and  Steve  admits  sending  it  but  claims  he  doesn’t  know  

who  my  employer  is.

33:00  

Steve  says  he  did  write  it,  but  it  wasn’t  a  threat,  only  a  question  about  what  they  

would  think.


33:34

Steve  says  it’s  it  legitimate  question,  and  not  illegal.

at  7:00  Bonnie  complains  about  being  removed.  They  do  not  acknowledge.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/chc06n6oyx1aqra/Whnc%20Env52217.m4a?dl=0

49:15

Alec  announces  the  surprise  which  was  on  the  agenda  —  stated  that  the  same  

people  who  questioned  Dr.  Mack’s  credibility  HIRED  him.  This  was  false.  

“We  have  been  unable  to  find  evidence  of  local  childhood  cancer.”  is  what  Alec  

said,  while  having  refused  to  allow  the  parents  of  the  children  with  cancer  to  

speak  or  share  their  concerns  and  information.

50:44

He  moves  on  despite  there  being  speaker  cards  for  item  two.

103:50

Alec  makes  the  claim  that  the  parents  didn’t  publish  the  study  he  claimed  

happened  that  none  of  us  saw,  because  they  “didn’t  like  the  results”  insinuating  

that  they  were  not  credible.  

114:00

Alec  discredits  Bonnie’s  NIOSH  program  of  compensating  the  workers  claiming  

that  it  didn’t  prove  contamination.

1:18:20

Alec:  “Englander,  yes,  the  one  who  says  his  mother  died  of  cancer  caused  by  

SSFL.”

23

 of  

64

Claiming  that  Mitch  Englander  is  somehow  unqualified  because  his  mother  died  

of  cancer?

0:00  on  LINK  below:

Example  of  Steve  disparaging  another  member  because  he  wants  to  be  on  the  

Car  Show  committee  because  he’s  a  car  dealer  (personal  interest)  [Bob  Brostoff  

is  the  target  in  this  case]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/chc06n6oyx1aqra/Whnc%20Env52217.m4a?dl=0

WRITTEN  EVIDENCE:

Written  response  from  Melissa  Bumstead:

Additional  cancer  cases  collected  from  

Kimi  Lewis  (started  with  a  group  of  100  

people  in  the  class  of  2000  at  

Chaminade  High  School  which  is  a  huge  

number  considering  how  small  the  

school  is,  and  how  young  they  all  are  for  

having  such  a  high  rate  of  cancer  and  

auto-immune  disease:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/

116142579059649/?

multi_permalinks=174474346559805&notif_id

=1528650136047648&notif_t=group_activity

Jon  Berg’s  Text  to  me:

.  

24

 of  

64

Steve’s  response  to  me  when  I  asked  that  they  reinstate  Bonnie  to  the  committee:

https://

www.dropbox.com/s/270xnog1mcf8do3/Screenshot%202018-06-13%2014.16.03.png?

dl=0

Steve’s  

email  to  Bonnie:

 (

LINK

)

WRITTEN  EVIDENCE:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x6lt2u8sewzya32/

Screenshot  2018-06-13 11.20.56.png?dl=0

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[

Please  notice  that  he  didn’t  hesitate  to  retaliate  against  me,  not  for  a  second

].  

This  makes  

clear  that  I  am  not  allowed  to  participate  in  the  public  process  without  being  retaliated  

against  by  these  people.  

The  only  reason  I  dared,  was  because  it  was  made  so  clear  that  the  removal  of  Bonnie  

was  not  valid.  Without  Bonnie  on  the  committee,  there  is  no  one  standing  up  for  the  

community  or  public  safety  values.  Instead  of  responding  to  that  issue,  he  chose  to  

slander  me  with  claims  about  the  restraining  order  to  the  entire  distribution.  This  only  

enables  the  other  government  entities  to  use  his  false  claims  as  an  excuse  to  not  

respond  either.  My  civil  rights  are  being  violated  without  question,  and  on  a  chronic  basis  

whenever  I  try  to  engage.  

Also  please  notice  that  his  story  is  different  from  Alec’s  written  declaration  under  penalty  

of  perjury,  and  is  also  different  from  the  false  story  he  told  in  court:  [

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I  have  also  been  under  a  doctors  care  for  more  than  a  decade  for  my  back  and  cannot  

pick  up  more  than  a  gallon  of  milk,  and  had  a  documented  letter  saying  so,  but  was  not  

allowed  to  present  it.  Also,  I  never  had  a  bottle  of  water  and  never  raised  a  chair.  I  

knocked  one  over  when  I  got  up.  There  is  only  one  sound  on  the  recording  and  even  on  

his  declaration,  he  indicates  that  I  knocked  over  the  chair  when  I  got  up.  In  addition,  I  

was  reading  from  my  phone,  which  I  was  holding.  If  I  am  holding  my  phone,  and  this  

false  water  bottle,  with  my  THIRD  hand,  do  I  pick  up  the  chair???  It’s  a  lie,  period.  I  am  

not  proud  of  my  words,  but  I  didn’t  threaten  him,  period.  If  he  was  scared.  why  did  he  

then  offer  to  put  me  on  the  agenda  after  my  words  if  he  was  so  afraid?  and  why  are  his  

written  declaration  under  penalty  of  perjury  or  testimony  under  oath,  both  inconsistent  

with  the  recording  and  his  most  recent  statements  here?  Exactly  how  many  versions  

under  oath  is  he  allowed  to  tell?  It  makes  no  sense.  I  have  the  full  recording.  They  

provided  a  carefully  edited  version  to  misinform  the  court  and  the  city  attorney’s  office,  

instead  of  presenting  the  facts  as  they  happened.

My  previous  accomplishments  were  instead  described  as  if  I  just  showed  up  to  a  few  of  

the  same  meetings

 when  in  addition,  I  drove  Alec  Uzemeck  to  Sacramento  for  a  meeting  which  

I  arranged  with  then  Director  Debbie  Raphael  who  didn’t  do  what  we  asked.  But  I  have  him  the  

opportunity  to  ask.  I  also  arranged  a  special  overnight  field  trip  to  Solvang  and  Vandenberg  Air  

Force  Base  to  learn  about  rocket  testing  in  a  personal  tour  of  how  it  relates  to  Santa  Susana.  

https://www.facebook.com/ssflnationalmonument/videos/vl.

1741157929473474/897677490377360/?type=1

Building  a  national  monument  at  Santa  Susana,  where  all  these  people  who  claim  they  

are  terrified  of  me,  all  gladly  went  overnight  to  Vandenberg  with  me:  

https://

www.facebook.com/ssflnationalmonument/videos/vl.

1741157929473474/897950047016771/?type=1

Saving  Santa  Susana  was  supposed  to  be  about  cleanup  first,

 but  they  wanted  to  

use  it  to  block  the  cleanup  and  I  wouldn’t  go  along  with  that,  so  I  had  to  be  removed  from  

the  conversation.  

https://www.facebook.com/ssflnationalmonument/videos/vl.

1741157929473474/903610803117362/?type=1

https://www.facebook.com/ssflnationalmonument/videos/899050210240088/

https://www.facebook.com/ssflnationalmonument/videos/1064792766999164/